BVR
discussion of how to best defeat the R-77 Medium-Range Missile (AKA AA-12 Adder).1: ECM on to deny bandit an early lock
2: Get high and fast, 30,000 feet plus to extend AIM-120 Rmax 500+ Kts
3: If bandit is jamming (no radar brick) you have to burn through the jammer, use RWS with reduced barscans to 2 bars. If he's not jamming use TWS mode instead.
4: Achieve radar lock and fire just inside of Rmax
5: Crank right or left and put bandit at the edge of your radar gimbles
6: Reduce speed (Very important as this delays his launch Rmax)
7: Watch target aspect and your RWR spike and your WEZ circle
8: If bandit has turned away to defeat the AIM-120 long shot, turn back into him and push the fight. You know if he has turned away as the RWR will not show a spike, and your missile WEZ will shrink.
9: If bandit has fired you have two choices, but turn ECM off to deny HOJ
(Aggressive) Keep him on the edge of radar gimbles untill your AIM-120 goes
pitbull, then slice back and run, full AB, put the RWR spike on your six. Go downhillfull AB, but if the RWR continues to show the M symbol, prepare to climb and then
beam the R-77 as it runs out of energy.
(Defensive) Slice back and run before pitbull, he might leave his ECM on and your slammer will go HOJ while you will outrun the R-77
I've had the AI do aggressive BVR tactics and defensive as well. Perhaps the most
challenging is the fight were the bandit turns away to defeat an AIM-120 long shot, and as you push the fight, and get a medium range AIM-120 shot, he turns into you and fires an R-77 at you. I found that a split S right at slammer pitbull with full AB dive can shake the R-77 as the Mig is often destroyed. 可以试试看,谢谢了LZ 破S用来躲导弹貌似没多大用处,倒不如直接90度转向。距离远还好,距离近如果还俯冲的话,那就等着挨炸吧。所以保守的做法还是90度转向后高速飞行并抛干扰,有余力者还可以反复拉起-降低高度-拉起。 还是看双方的距离的,如果在18-20nm(大概是R77的E-Pole之外)做split-s+AB逃是有用的,
如果进了E-Pole(也就是不可逃逸区),只能AB机动到3-9线加干扰,在导弹的最后阶段做大G机动了。
理论上是这样子,但是判断做大G机动的时机很难掌握,AF里说可以通过威胁是否在RWR的inner ring判断,OF的RWR分inner ring和out ring吗? 我试了下,没感觉威胁会从out ring跳到inner ring, 光靠目视判断导弹距离太难了 Rne指的是导弹发射瞬间目标做6G机动转向180度飞离发射机然后以1G加速到比导弹发射时快300节的过程, 如果这样机动以后导弹还能追上目标, 那么说明发射是在Rne以内的~
所以如果目标刚刚进Rne你就发射, 他做8G急转180度再全加力超音速逃跑还是能够拖死导弹的~ 刚进射程就发射的导弹很容易被拖死。所以那些号称五六十射程的都是吹出来的,实战中目标不是轰炸机,谁会那么远发射。海外战争18用120击落29的战例还是进入到视距发射的…… 海湾战争的mig29配的飞弹太烂了,如果有R27ET和R77,估计等到目视距离就被人插个洞了 没有预警机或者地面雷达支持,被人接近到目视距离是很正常的事。 美机有雷达的呀,我想不会进入战区就雷达静默,就听预警机的引导吧
所以Mig29应该在30-40nm就能在RWR上接受到美机的雷达信号...
是不是LO都是搞暗杀的,有光电呀,美机应该不是这个战术吧,美机应该是
开着个大功率干扰,不怕别人不知道它的存在大摇大摆的就进来了 我就是说当年海湾战争伊拉克的29没AWACS和地面雷达的支援,被摸屁股很正常。其实TWS是没有雷达告警的。另外,雷达告警接收机是有盲区的。跟要命的是毛子的雷达告警系统,如果你要问,照射我的是敌人还是自己人,它会告诉你,不知道。如果你问,目标的型号是什么,它会告诉你,不知道。如果你问,目标的精确方位,它还是告诉你不知道……后半球还只有两盏灯,如此简陋的雷达告警系统,要么死在无声无息之中,要么吓死自己还没找到目标。
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